JaRo+JH+Federal+System

What do you think about having a Federal court system in the Junior High? You guys are the perfect authors because you have not had a court system in your home room. This will allow you to write a constitution without any preconceived notions.

Dancegirl45- I think that we should have a federal court system in the junior high because it would give the students power as well as the teachers... I know how we have "court systems", "class contracts" and "class councils" but I really don' think that, is enough. I think that the students and the teachers should be under a system of checks and balances. For example: If there is one student who never does their work and they get fussed at by the teachers all the time yet, they still don't do their work. Then, I think that it should be the responsibility of the students as well as the teachers to decide what that student’s punishment should be. Example #2: if there is one teacher who just refuses to do anything to help (a) certain student(s) and they are just failing said student(s), then I think that the students shouldn't have to go through the teachers just to get something done. I think that if the main governing body of the student body should come to a consensus about what to do and try that, and //**__only__**// if that doesn't work should any of the other teachers be brought into the matter. As for the governing bodies of the student body I think that there should be a congress-like area and a court system. The congress-like body I think that there should be representatives from each class in the congress and that those people should be elected by the each class but, the members of the congress must be approved by the court system and, the court must not use any preconceived personal grudges against the person as a reason to not allow a person to serve on congress. The congress should have one main leader whose ideas and votes count for no more than the non-leader members, the only difference in their job is that they must organize the congress. The leader must be voted for by the members of congress once the congress is formed. If however any one member of the congress is kicked off for any reason, the class from which the banned congress member is from must elect a new official. The congresses job is basically to watch over the student body ad create rules that will help the junior high run better. The court system should consist of one chief justice and a justice for each class. The justices of the court system should be elected by the teachers' governing body and approved by congress. The teachers are obligated to vote fairly and base their vote on who they think would be the least prejudging and unfair. The court systems job is to help settle any disputes within the junior high, even if they are between teachers and students. The tecahers would ahve a similar kind of governing bdy to what they have now. And just so that the students don't get too much power any major "laws" or "punishments" must have the tachers approvelbefore going ointo effect.

Pigtailgirl1-I think having a federl court system would be great. I think that in schools(yes,that means out J.R High) teacher take to much power and don't listen to the student body. Don't get me wrong,teachers are wonderful and we could not live with out them, but I would change it alot if we changed. Here is my new way of paideia's Juinor High: Basicly you will have a court system sort like our goverement today except with cooler names! Queen of all the land-Jenny Cox who is sort of like Bush. She has the rigth to command any student a punishment(if not made by the honorable members) unless 3/4 of the princes and princesses and 3/4 of the Hounorable members disagree with this punishment. Princes and princesses of all the land-All teacher and Sub-Teachers They are right after Jenny. They have the power to give small punishments but larger ones must go to court. They may not take to much power,they are mainly there to supervise and have imput. Hounerable member of the land-20 people chosen to be repersentatives of the J.R. High kids They are sort of like a council. They choose the punishments for the accused and it has to be checked by the Queen of all the land. They have large power over the commoners. They can also "sue" each other, prince or princesses of the land or the commoners.They run the court basicly Commoners-all the other students of the J.R. High They can "sue" each other and if choosing to be in the jury or witness they can. They are sort of a the bottom of the food chain. Basicly a commoner,hounorable member of the land or Princes and princesses of the land can "sue" each other in the J.R. High. You talk to a Hounorable member of the land and you set at date at lunch in the commons to state your case. Anyone can be chosen to be in the jury or if you are a eye witness you will have to come. In this J.R High court you can "sue" someone for: -Stealing -Disrupting contantly in class -hurting -Breaking class contract -a Prince or princess of the land can sue you for not completeing work -other reasonable ways After you case the the queen of all the land will tell you if your guilty or not guilty. If you are, the honorable members will discuss a punishment and get it signed with the queen. Punishment will very depending on what you did. That basicly what I thought of. I just think the students need to have more power in there own enviroment This might sound SO hard but it is a sysem. I also love dancegirls,it is very thoughtout and would work.

Bookworm_Grrrl- I do believe that the JH needs some kind of congress like body. Even though classes have court systems and class councils, i think we should have a court system that involves all the classes. I think that what we have now is kind of like what we talked about what the Articles of Confederation were. Each class is its own state, and yet there isn't a court system that can control them all together. Kind of like what Dancegirl45 stated (haha, get it?), in that same kind of idea. That each class should have representative in this congress like body, and that each of them should have equal saying or doing in the matter present. Only i think that Dancegirl45's idea has to much power given to the students that are in the court system.

$C-money$- I think it's good and bad to have a junior high court system. It would be good because we as students could work out our problems and make up for our mistakes. It also gives students a good idea of what a government looks like. Bookworm Grrrl says she thinks the court system should involve all the classes, but I think it's fine the way it is. I think some classes don't need a court system because they don't need it. I think classes like ours can work out our problems on our own or in class council. I think working out problems should just be with the students, though, because I think adults could make the relationship between the students worse. Don't get me wrong, teachers and other adults can make the problems better in some cases. I wouldn't mind having a court system, but I'm sort of glad our class doesn't have one. I do think it is a little unfair that people from classes that have the court system can charge people in classes that aren't in the court system. I think that if people have the right to charge you, you have the right to charge them. So in a way, I sort of do want to have a court system. I think it would help, but I don't think our class has many serious problems. Now that we have a class contract, along with class council, we don't need a court system. If I were to organize the court system, I would have the students run it. My idea is sort of the opposite of Bookworm Grrrl's because of this. I think it would be good to have the court system run with teachers to see what it would be like first, and then have it totally run by students to see what they've learned. A court system would be fun too. I think the confidentiality rule should go for everything that goes on in the court system and for things students don't want heard out of the classroom (like it is now). It might sound like the students have too much power, but if things get out of hand, then there will always be a teacher there watching.

soccergal1~ I don't think that there should be a court system because it just makes a lot more drama, because people are charging each other for stupid reasons. I think that just having a class council works fine and we can work peoblems out with it. Thrower classes also help for fixing problems. I know that at least some people that have the court system also think that it doesn't work. If we did get a court system we need to improve it some way so that it works. I agree with Bookworm_Grrrl, because because that way we would be able to vote on things in the congress with other classes and get it so that all of the classes have are on the same page. I would also add that there was one some person that was able to ok things like one of the teachers so that we don't pass laws that would cause more problems.

kewlness (AKA hello kitty's) i dont think there should be a court system it would just cause problems and make unnecessary fights. Think about it when has suing people over and over again ever helped anything? i also think that people would not take it seriously at all and would just turn it into a game about who could charge who the most, and this would waste so much time. also (based on soccergal1 and bookworm_grrrl's idea) we should have one big class council with all the classes participating. the students and teachers could come, and the teachers could listen to what the students like or dislike about their classes, and then change things. i think instead of a court system the JH could have a weekly pop shop so people could express the problems their having with other people. it would not be manditory for people to participate in this but for the people who want to get things off their chest it could help. so to summarize i dont think we should cause problems with a court system but solve them with pop shop. Robbdawgg I also think we shouldnt have a court system. My reason is that our class doesnt have much drama and if we did have the court system it would create fights and grudges and more. For example if strawberry charged banana for something really stupid like stealing a pencil than every body will think that strawberry is lame and stupid for charging something like that. Also if apple charged grape continuesly then that would make grape want to charge apple just for charging him\her so much. There is also when mango hates pineapple already and so they would charge each other for different things. Thats why i dont want a court system.

McLovin* i dont think we should have a court system because i think our system of punishment and contract cover all the problems. Since we got our contract we havn't had any problems. the mediators decide on a punishment and i think thats just like a court system without the lawsuits and the time waste. This court would get people that are not as smart as the people who set the standards in the class in more trouble than they would if the mediators just decided on a punishment for the person based on his actions. It would just waste time plus it would embaris the person to the exremm being called out in the middle of the classroom with everyone watching. i dont think it would be worth it.

Anyminyglookglookonaplinkplink* I think we should have a court system because it gives the people a right to speak out loud by taking someone to court. I also think we shouldn't have a court system because peolpe would charge other people for crazy reasons. I can think of a punishment for a junior high court sytem if we chose to have one.First there would be different levels of punishments based on what an indivisual or group does.There could be 10 levelsor more and the higher the numbers get from 1 to 10, the higher the punishment gets. For example, bob took a peice of candy from billy. That can be a level 1 punishment.Example two: Bob and billy got into a pushing fight. That could be a level 7,8, or 9 punishment. So after the court case this punishment will take place. Our class contract is working well and doesn't need a change.

Rouge19

I think that we shouldn’t have a court system because it makes people not able to say things like they normally would. Like if I was talking somebody and we are jokingly putting each other down some one could charge us for put down. Plus I think that since we don’t have a court system we don’t even so most of the things people get charge for any way. If there is a big problem, well that’s what thrower is for or class council. If those don’t work than you take it to teachers.

kaorudaisuki -

I, myself, find the Socialist/Communist way of government one that would work well, if it could be handled and taken care of. It would work well in the class because there wouldn't be as much elitism. People would be brought down to the same level, especially under Mao Zedong's ways. His are a little extreme, but it still is a good leveler. Paideia is a very wealthy school and there is a high level of elitism, particularly in the Junior High. This would press down on the amount of elitism, which I'm certainly feeling that there is an amount of.

But that's just my personal political views.

Other than my own Socialist interests, a constitutional monarchy would work somewhat well, with the teachers or Jennifer as the monarch. In our class, our teachers have really stepped out for our social issues, thus allowing a congress of ourselves. In a constitutional monarchy, with 'terms' that the kings and queens rule throug

atlelitestatechamps

I think we shoud'nt have court system because people would be charging each other for no reason. We need to have a communist government so that everbody would be on the same level. Alot of people say that they feel like they are being mistreatted by people with higher status. If we had a communist way we would not have that probelm. The probelm with that is that there is not really a higher status in the JH. People just think that there is a group of poplar kids and since they think that the group of popular kids think that they have more power.